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Create your Own Podcast to Document Your Travels | Jim Moore | Ep 72

Introducing Jim Moore

In today’s episode, we’ll be talking to Jim Moore from The Bloody Vegans Podcast and Bloody Vegans Productions which means he helps people with their own podcasts and will share a rather radical idea about how you might like to start your own podcast while you travel. Now, I will say that when Jim suggested this idea to me, I couldn’t quite understand how this might be helpful and interesting to all of you, but when I realized, that actually, when we travel we are all creating content. Of course, that content is usually photos or videos and we then go ahead and share some of that content on Instagram or TikTok. Why not consider collecting audio instead? This is such a fantastic episode we cover everything from why you would create a travel-themed podcast, what tech you need, and a little bit about workflow! I am super inspired, maybe you will be too!

A drone picture looking down on to Venice with the Text: Learn more about our vegan tours


  • 5:06 Introduction of vegan travel and the experience
  • 6:15 Introduction of Jim Moore & his podcast
  • 10:26 How can your podcast when you’re traveling?
  • 12:46 Podcasting pushes you to enjoy and experiences different things.
  • 16:48 What do people need for technology to create their own podcast?
  • 20:34 More suggestions to create your own podcast
  • 25:03 How to make your podcast better with each passing day?
  • 26:58 Is podcasting better than YouTube?
  • 29:21 People are less conscious with audio rather than video recording
  • 32:03 How can people level up their podcast?
  • 36:16 What are the strategies that people can use to promote their podcast?
  • 38:41 What is Jim Moore’s podcast about?
  • 40:41 How listeners can find Jim Moore?

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Connect with Jim

Credit: Jim Moore


Brighde Reed: Hi Jim, thank you so much for joining me today.

Jim Moore: Hey, Brighde

Brighde Reed: I’m so happy to have you on because you do some really interesting things in the vegan space and what you do is going to also be what we talk about, what the topic is for today. So why don’t you tell listeners a little bit about what it is that you do in the vegan space please?

Jim Moore: Yeah. So thank you so much for having me on, it’s amazing to, to be on your awesome podcast. So I’m Jim, I’m the host of The Bloody Vegans Podcast which Brighde herself was one of my very early guests, episode eight we’re on 146 now, and it was back in episode eight. I think it was that you joined me Brighde it was awesome to have you.

So I, I host that podcast and also run a company called Bloody Vegans Productions, who essentially make podcasts for other folks. In some cases, holistically make the complete package, from video to audio, to social media posts and in other cases just aspects of it. So it . Might be a transcript for a podcast or the show notes for another podcast. So anything to do with podcasting, including training, if you, if it’s under the umbrella of podcasting, I do it.

Brighde Reed: Okay. So of course the people that are listening to this, they’re obviously into podcasts already and myself I was a voracious consumer of podcasts since 2009. In natural fact, it was a podcast way back then that inspired me to go vegan in the first place, which is crazy to think about it. Now, there were not really many YouTube channels. Was YouTube that popular back then? I dunno, but I was myself, a very early adopter of podcasts. And of course now I have my own podcast, which is something I never thought that I would be doing. And it really has just brought so many wonderful benefits to my life, to my business and networking. So it’s just such a cool format. And that’s really what we’re gonna be talking about today. How you can podcasts when you’re traveling.

Yeah, Yeah,

Jim Moore: absolutely. This is one of the things I talk to a lot of people about when I’m starting out on the journey of their podcast is not to be bound by what you think a podcast should be. I think many of us, when we first come to it, we think what it needs to be is like an hour long and it needs to be an interview format.

And that’s the only way you can do a podcast. And I really encourage people and that’s what we’ll get into. What I really encourage people to think of is it can literally be anything like as far as your creativity wants to stretch, a podcast can be five minutes of information, it could be a weather report. It could be a travel document as we are gonna talk about here. It could be literally anything that you want it to be, in any format, any length video or audio neither or either, or both, whichever way you want to cut it,  you could, you can make it into a podcast. Let’s not be bound by what we think podcasts are. Some of the best ones. Yeah, absolutely are interview shows and they’re awesome, cause we love finding out those personal stories about people. But some of my favorites recently have been scripted comedy. I think which is a really unique kind of thing. Like to have almost a radio player would’ve been back in the day. But now that being brought into the kind of modern audience through the podcast,

Brighde Reed: Yeah. And we document our travels so often when we go away and whether it’s just taking a bazillion photos and keeping them to ourselves or sharing them on Instagram or Facebook or whatever it is. But I really love this idea of using audio or collecting audio of some description to share as well. It’s because I don’t know about you, but sound really evokes memories. It evokes inspiration, I would say that audio plays as much, a bigger part in my travel experience than the visual side of it.

Jim Moore: We, like you say, we really we’re often really drawn to the visual, if, think about like Instagram, our Instagrams are filled with our amazing vistas from our holidays and the food we ate when we were there and this kind of thing. And the, one of the areas that we often just don’t capture or sometimes can’t capture, or maybe don’t think we can capture is the audio, the sounds in that restaurant, the sounds of that waterfall, maybe that you were looking out onto, maybe the sound of a rainforest that you walked through on a particular day or a woodland. There, there’s so many different things that you can capture as well as your reflections on those things that you are seeing. Perhaps the conversation between you and a travel partner when you are away, those kind of things like those are unique moments that happen once, and we are so comfortable with they just disappear. And the only thing we’re gonna have left from this holiday is our photo. Maybe that’s not the case. Maybe you could capture that conversation in that restaurant and be transported right back there 20 years later, when you are listening to yourselves and your thoughts and feelings about the trip it can all be captured there as, as well as all the sounds and the hustle and bustle from around you.

Brighde Reed: And I often find that when I’m creating a podcast, I have conversations with me cuz I’m committed to creating a podcast and releasing it every week. That commitment actually pushes me to actually go out and do more. And in this case, interview people and talk with people in this kind of format, obviously not on the road, but in this kind of format.

And honestly, if I didn’t have a podcast, I probably wouldn’t be sitting down here and chatting with you today, Jim. So this, it really pushes me to enjoy and experience things that otherwise I might dismiss a little bit.

Jim Moore: Yeah, a hundred percent and taking that kind of concept and applying that to your travels is, I, in my view, like it could be really valuable at getting the most out of a travel experience. If you are away and you’re just much more acutely aware of the sounds around you, you’re, you are more likely to a experience them in the moment, probably a little bit more than you might have done. Like I say, you’re going on that walk through the, through a woodland or a hike or whatever it may be. And there’s all kinds of, the local wildlife and bits and pieces, and, those sometimes can become background noise and just, they’re there or maybe you enjoy them in the moment but imagine like being almost pushed to think about them a little bit more because you need to capture them for your next episode or maybe it’s not, it’s not even as structured as that. I can hear people’s minds probably who are listening, thinking, this sounds like added work whilst I’m trying to get away from work. And I wanna encourage people to not think about it like that, really. But to think about, there’s no need to necessarily release it all whilst you are out. And, I’m gonna release an episode every single day whilst I’m on, on my travels. That’s a lot of that might be a lot of work and a lot of effort, but it’s more like capturing it like you would capture a photo, you see something beautiful and. And you capture a photo in this particular case, why not? We’re going on this hike, we’re gonna be talking, so let’s tee up our equipment to record. And I guess the next thing, and we’ll probably come onto this, but is that doesn’t have to be as daunting as it sounds either. This isn’t , you don’t have to take a production team with you.

Brighde Reed: Let’s talk about it. If we have inspired someone or a few people to give this a try, like I remember when I first decided that I would do a podcast, I was completely overwhelmed with all of the different aspects, and of course, a couple of years in I’ve realized that actually it’s not that difficult once you climb up that learning curve. So how might people do it? What do they need?

Jim Moore: Yeah. And this is just word of advice for folks who wanna start podcasts generally. Before we talk about specifically travel is most of the clients, I speak to, prospective clients who haven’t yet got a podcast are thinking about one, the biggest kind of area that daunts them is the tech, they think it’s a very technical thing and yes, it can. Like with anything, if you think about photography is a great analogy for podcasting. Photography can be an incredibly technical thing. It can be a real artform. There can be a lot of, if you think about lenses and you think about camera bodies, and you think about lighting and light meters, and you could get really in the weeds and make beautiful stunning photos, but you could also take your phone out of your pocket and take a photo, and if you think about that to expand upon that analogy even further, maybe 20, 20 years ago or so when we were getting our camera out, for the camera that was in our pocket may not have, unless we were in enthusiast may not have been capable of capturing, the best photos. But if you think about your phone, now, if you’ve got an iPhone say or the latest Android phone you are more than likely equipped with a pretty high quality camera. There’s amazing software behind those very tiny lenses that makes your pictures almost on a par with some professional standard shots. So you can do amazing things with these devices in our pocket. And that’s where we start when it comes to podcasting on the road is you probably have believe it or not a podcast studio with you that you are already carrying around in your pocket.

You’ve probably have some headphones with you of some description. And those headphones probably have a microphone built into them. So your wired ones are ideal your Bluetooth ones work just as fine, or even your phone’s microphone. Some of the very latest phones have excellent microphones in them.

Then if you think about the the phone itself, you’ve got those wonderful thing called the App Store or the Google Play Store, and it is filled with amazing recording apps. The one that are particularly direct folks to use is one called Rode Reporter. So Rode are a company who make microphones. They make headphones, they make mixing desks. They make all kinds of different things. And they do a free app that you can download and you can hit record, and it will give you a high quality audio file off the back of it taken from your phones microphone. So if you and a friend are out and about, and I’ve done this actually for an episode of my own podcast and it, from an audio quality point of view it’s arguably just as good as any of the others. So I went on a walk with my wife. We both had a phone with us. We both had a set of just the very, the free ear pods that you get with or used to get with iPhones that plug in, plug those in, switched on our Rode Reporters popped those in our top pockets of our coats and just walked and talked.

And we had an episode of a podcast by the end of that day of an hour’s conversation. And there were lovely little moments in there. We’d stopped to, to look at a bird in a tree. It was a little Robin and it was singing away. And it was just a lovely little moment that we captured that we would’ve, it would’ve been a fleeting moment that we would’ve forgotten about, but now it’s in little podcast form. We ended up releasing it as well. So it’s an episode of my podcast and audio quality’s great. And literally no studio whatsoever.

Brighde Reed: Okay. So we’ve got the tech sorted out. I’m very frustrated with myself because I just came back from a six week trip to Italy and. There were probably lots of opportunities for me to record a quick podcast. Admittedly, I was working, I was leading a trip, but I really wanted to meet up with our guide in Venice and have a conversation with her in Venice, with all of the sounds of the canals and the boats going past. That would’ve just been so cool. And after talking with you today, I’m kicking myself even more, and I’m really committed to, to giving that a try when I’m next traveling for sure. Okay. So  people have got the tech in their pockets and they’ve managed to get a recording. What would be next?

Jim Moore: Yeah. What would you do with it next? Cause that’s also pretty daunting as well. Cause you’d think. Okay. So I have, this audio file. What, how on earth am I gonna make this into a podcast? So there’s a couple of things you can do. I’d probably advise, unless you’re really keen on doing this, let’s get home first before we before we think about what we’re gonna do with it.

Because particularly if you are having a conversation with somebody you’re gonna have two audio files and you’re gonna need to do something with those, it’s a bit like, we wanna make a photo book together. You’ve got photos and I’ve got photos, it’s it is all the more difficult if we’re out on the road to, to make sure that, that works technically in this particular case, it’s similar. We want to get home and pop those files into the same place if you are doing it solo though. And even if you are, even if you are not, and you are looking to get your podcast out there. There are, again, technology’s moved on wonderfully and there’s some amazing podcast hosting apps out there where you can literally make the entire podcast on your phone and upload it, to the major podcasting platforms just on the same day. And the one I particularly shout out is one called Anchor which is a Spotify company, and they have made it insanely simple to essentially take an audio file and upload it directly to all of the major podcasting platforms pretty much instantaneously. And have it ready to go. You just need a picture for your cover art. Title for your podcast, an audio file and you are away in a few clicks and it talks you through how to do it through anchor. If you’re just, if it’s a solo one and it’s just you chatting and you’re happy with the outcome, and maybe you even wanna put some intro music, even it allows you to do things like that. Yeah. It’s incredible, then just download Anchor and you’re away. So that really those two apps, you could have a podcast up on some of the major platforms this afternoon, with those two apps, Rode Reporter and Anchor, which is incredible to think If you’re gonna get home though. And you’ve got a conversation with two audio files and bits and pieces again, there are some great ways to do this that are much simpler than you might think.

Anchor is an again another great place to start. If you are a iOS user, There are things like Garage Band, which is a free app that comes with your iPhone or your iPad and will allow you to put those two audio files together and add sample music that is free and built into the device and can be used publicly on podcasting apps.

And then that will give you your combined podcast at the end, which you can upload to your podcast provider like Anchor. There’s so many bits and pieces that are just free apps that you’ve probably already got on your device, but just weren’t aware of it.

Brighde Reed: Yeah, I think a lot of people, and I know I was definitely guilty of this and not that it’s a bad thing, but I felt very often that, that the podcast had to be perfect before I could upload it. And, even my perfect still isn’t very good, but it’s in terms of quality of the editing and that kind of thing. But I think, people often let perfection get in the way of actually getting something done. And honestly, I think even the most successful podcasts not many people were listening to them much in the first few episodes. And you just learn so much throughout the process. And, I can say that. The quality of my podcast has steadily got a little bit better over time and the equipment as well. So I would invite people to, not even worry so much about editing at first done is better than perfect at first for sure.

Jim Moore: Hundred percent you are so right. Like you, you level up as you go. People are, in this day and age, we are really comfortable with building things in public. If you like, whether it be companies, whether it be our social profiles, whatever it is, we. We are much more comfortable with learning in public than we perhaps were in the past. And podcasting’s just such a great example. And, people forgive a lot from a quality point of view with podcasting. If the content’s great, like with anything if it’s interesting and worth paying attention to, they will listen. And ultimately, in this particular case, if we’re thinking about documenting your travel, I would say, and this all came from a person who was a prospective client of mine who was talking about a trip and how she wanted to document it and make a photo book. And then she wanted to make a promotional podcast after the event to talk about the book. And we ultimately got into the conversation about why don’t you make the podcast whilst you are traveling and then it’s like a true companion piece and I guess what I’d encourage people to think about here. Don’t even worry necessarily about publishing it. If you don’t wanna publish it, this is just a different way to capture memories. You can, even, if you want to, we’ve all got these days shared photo albums with our friends and our loved ones of our trips and things like that. If we’re not using social media and stuff and you can do the same with podcasting. You can actually with certain podcast providers make private podcasts and just share it with your friends and family, if you want to. I don’t wanna be a content provider. I don’t wanna be making content. I don’t want all the stress, but I would love to share some of these kind of memories with my friends and family whilst we’re out and about in a different and unique way, you can do that too. There’s a site called Storyboard, which is worth checking out.

So Storyboard is a podcast provider that makes or allows you to make private podcasts for up to 50 people. It’s usually a business tool so people use it in organizations, to share messages and things like that. But yeah, why not? Why not use the same idea to share with your friends and family can share with four or five people. And that’s a really cool way. I think of sharing your memories.

Brighde Reed: Yeah really interesting stuff. Yes. I will say that podcasting is much, much easier in, in my opinion than creating video. I would say in terms of in terms of getting good video is actually really quite hard, like engaging video of high quality and when you’re just working on sound, you don’t have to worry about the video. It’s great. If you’re somebody that maybe wants to document something, video is one way that you can do that. Creating videos on YouTube is awesome. But the quality of YouTube videos has just got so good in recent years. And, I personally. I don’t really want to share the video that I create, unless it’s just for very small things. So podcasting is a lot better than YouTube in my opinion. What do you think?

Jim Moore: I think that’s an excellent point actually, is that and it also talks to, to how people are really comfortable with, or not really comfortable, but they are at least aware and comfortable that it is possible to vlog when they’re away. Like there’s a lot of people who, like you say, they make YouTube channels, or maybe they just do it for Instagram and their Stories and things like that.

Who will, who are more than happy to either do a piece to camera, or if not a piece to camera, they’ll be, doing a voiceover whilst showing the sites of where they’re at. And yet people aren’t as comfortable. They see it as more daunting to make something audio related. And actually I’m with you. It is far, it’s far more difficult to make a vlog than it is to make a podcast and to make it as good as like some of the ones out there, cuz like you say the standard of videography that is out there now is exceptional. So even in the video podcast space where you know where there is a crossover, that the standard of video podcast is so exceptional now that it’s it does add a real, extra workload and dimension. If you want to make your audio podcast video. I think that’s another great point that helps will hopefully help folks think maybe I should give this a try, cuz it’s just a different format and a refreshing way to capture things. So yeah, I’m with you.

Brighde Reed: I’m keep thinking about a conversation that I had. I was in Bhutan a few years ago, and I had this amazing conversation with a Buddhist nun there. It was just a wonderful thing. And maybe it would’ve been nice to have recorded that. There’s something much less intrusive about a microphone when there’s no pressure of a video in there as well. People are very self-conscious about the way they look and even if they were to agree to being videoed, they might monitor how they how they answer, how they stand all of those things, because they’re very aware that they’re being videoed. And of course we are our own worst critics when it comes to our appearance and how we’re coming across. Whereas there’s something a lot less scary about a microphone only.

Jim Moore: Yeah. A hundred percent. No, I think that the thought that’s just triggered in me is if we think about like a pandemic life, we’d all got comfortable or comfortable ish with video calls and Zoom and things like this. But I do remember, like there was always a sense, like with work calls and things like that, that if if the record button was hit on a video call, for that we wanted to make this, usable for folks later who missed the call, then everybody did modify their behavior slightly. And everyone’s just a little bit more on edge. Probably looking at their own camera to check everything’s alright. Rather than being really present in the conversation. I think you’re so right. That is another kind of key factor in it. An interesting point you’ve made me think about my own podcast, cuz I used to do audio only, like as you’ll know, like back in the day and in the last probably 70, 80 episodes, I’ve gone into video. And I wonder I haven’t done this yet, but I wonder if I listen to the sort of the first 70 odd podcasts and then the more recent 70 odd podcasts, is there a difference in the conversation? Are people a little bit more guarded, maybe when there’s a video? It’s fascinating. One for me to think about, but I think you’re right. And in this context just another. Great sort of selling point, if you like for why not make an audio diary, even if the word podcast scares you a little bit, why not make an audio diary of your travels?

Brighde Reed: I am so inspired right now. I am so inspired. Okay. So people are thinking, perhaps they might like to give this a try. They’ve given it a try. It’s going quite well. Family members are giving some really great feedback. Maybe some people are starting to listen. You’re really enjoying the process. Maybe you wanna up level your game a little bit. So how might people do that?

Jim Moore: Yeah. So there’s a couple of products here that I’d get folks to take a look at. One is like a lapel mic or a Lavia mic much, again, much cheaper than you’d probably think you can pick up a Rode one of these for 40 or 50 pounds. And you can clip that on and plug that into your phone, and that just is a bit of a, an easier thing to cope with than having the headphones in. You don’t have to wear anything in your ears that way, just literally have your lapel mic on, plugged into your phone in your pocket or in your rucksack on your back and off you go. You’re recording. So that’s one little tip. You can get yourself a little, very portable microphone and level up that way gives you great results. Another way to, to, level up your kind of recording game, if you’re out and about is a set of products called handy recorders. Zoom, not Zoom, the web conferencing folks, but a zoom who came before them make an amazing range of these as a particular model called the H6, which I’ve got here that I know we are audio, but, for your purposes, Brighde pretty small little boxes as you can see. It’s got a built in microphone that it comes with and that conversation you were talking about earlier, where what if I took the camera out and we filmed that this is the kind of thing that you can pop on a table, on a, in a restaurant or, at a table with somebody else. You can pop in the middle of you and record an amazing quality conversation without either of you being really like encumbered by anything, no phones just an SD card that’s popped inside it, just like you would. So my equivalent here, or my analogy is, if you are happy taking photos with your with your iPhone or your Android, and do you think actually I’ve got really into my photography when I level up, you tend to head to Canon Canon Nikkon, a DSLR camera of some description. And you bring some SD cards with you and it’s just the same thing. Really. You’ve got a device smaller than one of those cameras. More robust as well, lenses and things like that. Pop it in a rucksack. It’s got built in mic, take a couple of SD cards and you can record the whole trip in, in amazing quality with no real stress.

Brighde Reed: If people are creating this, they’re really enjoying it. What are some strategies to promote the podcast a little bit. Let’s say they’re looking to find people to listen to their podcast rather than just doing it for fun. How does all of that work? Because I think podcasts don’t really have algorithms. So I think it’s like a different approach to growing an audience than it might be for YouTube videos, for example, or Instagram.

Jim Moore: Yeah. Oh yeah, you’re absolutely right. It’s not governed by the same kind of clever algorithms in terms of you don’t get content served to you. So it’s not like if you open up spotify or you open up Apple Podcasts, you listen to one show. It says, oh, you like that? You might like this. It doesn’t do that in the world of podcasting. If you’re not, obviously your listeners will hopefully be familiar with that concept, it just doesn’t do that. If you think about how you find most of your podcasts, like that’s a really good starting place for planning out like any kind of marketing strategy with podcasts is how did you find your favorite shows and inevitably the way that it’s about 40% of people find their favorite podcast is purely by searching a that happened to have been in the title of a podcast, they then listened to an episode and then they liked that. So they stuck with it. Search terms are key. So if for example, your podcast is all about Thailand, and your adventures in Thailand then, be really clear with town or city names in Thailand, in the titles of episodes call it some don’t, don’t call it something, obscure the podcast, call it, Travels in Thailand, those

Brighde Reed: Not Voyages in the Land of the Smiles. For example.

Jim Moore: That is what a brilliant example. Yeah. That’s the kind of thing that might, you might think. Oh, that sounds wonderful. And I, but it doesn’t, it won’t be searchable. Maybe put that in the description of your show if you want to, but I wouldn’t call it that, so that’s the key one is like search terms are key and then think about people, when they find podcasts, another way that they find them is they listen to podcasts. I know this sounds obvious, but podcast listeners, they listen to podcasts. If you can be a guest on other people’s podcasts that is also a great way to, to get known cuz often we listen to five or six podcasts. Yeah. That’s the, the average for a keen podcast listener as they listen to about five or six hours worth of podcast across their week. And if you are on a show that has got a similar audience to the one that you would like to be listening to yours, why not ask them? And as podcasters, we’re all pretty generous folks in my experience like we are all looking for new exciting guests to bring to our audience. Just as much as you are looking to to get onto somebody’s show and promote yours. That’s a good way to start. You’ll find people are really generous with their time. And then of course if you want to go that step further, but you do get into a little bit more content creation, but that is things like Instagram and LinkedIn and wherever your wherever your audience is, if your audience is a LinkedIn audience, then be on LinkedIn, if they are a TikTok audience be on TikTok, if they’re an Instagram audience be there and, follow them, take a keen interest in the, in the kind of the communities in those spaces, engage with those communities and and then you’ll find it’s more reciprocal. Yeah, you’ve gotta create a bit of content for that, of course, like things like audiograms, again, there’s some amazing apps that will do that for you, which will create little clips of your podcast in audio form.

And you can put a nice visual on it and things like that. There’s ways to do that as well. Those are probably the top three ways that I would say to promote. And it can’t be stated enough, like how key search terms are really.

Brighde Reed: Yes, this is definitely something that I have been trying to focus on my podcast as well, just to make sure that things are named correctly and that description has a ton of information as well. For sure. It’s really important. You also have a podcast and we haven’t really talked about what your podcast is about because maybe people would love to check your podcast out.

Jim Moore: Yeah. So it is it’s called the Bloody Vegan’s Podcast and it is ultimately a series of interviews that aim to put a spotlight on the fact that the world of veganism is many and varied. There are people with huge hugely diverse sets of interests, from different backgrounds, different walks of life, different ways of doing things, completely different definitions of what they would deem to be activism all kinds of different things. And it is essentially letting those conversations come to light, if you like busting some of the, the myths and legends, the stereotypes about who vegans are. I think that’s the premise of the show. So we’ve had all kinds of different folks on from intersectional feminist authors like Carol J. Adams through to the founder of Sea Shepherd, Captain Paul Watson, BAFTA winning directors. You name it all kinds of different folks through to, people who are had somebody on recently. Actually it hasn’t come out yet. It comes out next week, but who’s made Ayuvedic ice cream, like I’ve, I’d never heard of such a thing. And just that kind of thing, people coming up with really unique ways to spread the word of veganism, talk about veganism, share their passions. And that’s what it does. So it’s. Sort of 40 minutes to an hour long conversations. I usually start with like, how did people get into veganism in the first place? Cuz I’m always fascinated. Everyone’s story is so different. About their journey and their it’s interesting listening to their kind of recollections of what that journey was like and what that period was like. Especially with the benefit of hindsight. And and then they talk about, what, whatever else is going on in their world right now, which is always fascinating. So I just I love it. I love talking to folks for me. If no one listened to it, I’d still do it. I just love the conversations.

Brighde Reed: Podcasting really has added a lot to my life in terms of getting me talking to people and improving my tech skills. And it’s just a really great thing I wholeheartedly recommend for sure. So I’m sure that people are inspired to think about podcast creation rather than just podcast consumption. Jim, would you mind letting the listeners know how they might find you, reach you and engage with your podcast and what it is that you do?

Jim Moore: Sure. Yeah. Search for Bloody Vegans pretty much anywhere you like, and you’ll find find the podcast. So, on your podcast provider of choice, you can also watch it on YouTube, if you’d prefer to watch the interviews, you can do that too. You can find me on Instagram in the same place, Bloody Vegans Podcast or Bloody Vegans Productions. And on that note there’s the two websites which are worth checking out as well. So bloodyveganspodcast.co.uk. If you want to know about the podcast itself and bloodyvegansproductions.com, if you are interested in learning more about podcasting, there’s also courses on there which are quite cool as well. So you can book yourself on a little training session, one to one they’re 25 pounds, and you can learn a bit more on a bespoke basis.

Brighde Reed: Thank you so much for joining me today.

Jim Moore: Thank you. Brighde it’s been a pleasure.

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